As of May 1, 2008, there are more than two dozen active participants in
the
test program, with many of the lineages listed at this web site.
The number of participants is increasing month by month. Some
volunteers are from the same lineage, which helps solidify the accuracy
of the results. Also, some volunteers opted for the 12-marker
test, others the more detailed 25-marker test.
The lines are identified by the name and date of the first known male
ancestor rather than the name of the Project participants. This
helps other descendants of the of Thorpe lineages determine whether
they already have volunteers as part of the Project, as well as
protects the identity of the volunteers.
Thus far, the following lines have been tested:
1. Thomas Thorpe (1631) of Woodbridge,
New Jersey.
2. Thomas Tharp (1640) of Maryland.
3. Zebulon Tharp (early 1700's) of
Virginia.
4. John Henry Tharp (1830) of Somerset
County, New Jersey.
5. Benjamin Tharp (1770) of Virginia.
6. Solomon Tharp (1750) of Delaware.
7. James Tharp (1799) of Virginia.
8. George Thorpe (late 1700's) of England.
9. William Thorpe (1605) of New Haven, Conn.
10. Thomas Thorp (1818) of Ontario, Canada.
11. John Jacob Thorp (1776) of Morris County, New Jersey.
12. John Thorp (abt 1720) of Rahway, New Jersey.
Please note that many of these lineages began their histories in
places
other than those I have assigned for them. For example, Benjamin
Tharp (1773) was born in New Jersey, but relocated to Virginia early in
his life, is associated with that state, and many of his descendants
continue to reside there. While I could have correctly called him
"Benjamin Tharp of New Jersey," it made more sense to attach him to
state of Virginia. Additionally, if a Thorpe ancestor tended to
move around a lot in his life, I chose to assign the state to which he
was born as his identifying state. For example, we don't know
where Solomon Tharp was born, and he moved around extensively
throughout his life. However, Solomon married Hannah Tate, who
was from Delaware, and appears in the will of William Tate (1813),
Hannah's father, which is housed in the Delaware Archives.
Keeping in mind as well that many descendants of Thomas Tharp of
Maryland settled in Delaware, I have assigned Solomon to the state of
Delaware, though this isn't a determination that Solomon was born in
that particular state.
For a more in-depth historical review of the various Thorpe lineages
participating in the Project, please refer to the section entitled
"
Project Participants."
BRIEF SUMMARY:
We found a genetic match between Thomas Thorpe of
Woodbridge (#1), Zebulon Tharp of Virgina (#3), Benjamin Tharp of
Virginia (#5), Thomas Thorp of Ontario, Canada (#10), and John Jacob
Thorp of New Jersey (#11), indicating
that these lines all descend from a single Thorpe ancestor and
represent a single Thorpe lineage. While most are likely
descendants of Thomas Thorpe (1631) himself, the Ontario Thorpes must
descend from a common 15th or 16th century English Thorpe ancestor with
the Woodbridge Thorpes, as Thomas Thorp of Ontario indicates on the
early 19th century censuses that he was born in England. We also found
a match between
Thomas Tharp of Maryland
(#2) and the lineage of Solomon Tharp (#6). We have not yet found
a genetic match for the lines of John Henry Tharp of
New Jersey (#4), James Tharp of Virginia (#7) or George Thorpe of
England (#8). We
have therefore determined that there are six separate genetic lineages
or haplotypes for the Thorpe families tested so far.
The results from the first eight lines (#1-10) are summarized in the
table
below. They represent six distinct lines bearing some variant
of the surname "Thorpe." The rows are identified in the following
manner: the first line represents the number of markers tested - it
extends all the way up to the number 25, although some volunteers only
took the 12-marker test. The second row is called "markers"
and represents the numeric DYS labels geneticists have attached
to each marker on the Y-chromosome (in reality, the numbers represent
locational markers on the Y-chromosome). Finally, the columns are
labeled according to how the Thorpe lineages are listed directly above
(Thomas Thorpe of Woodbridge is #1, Thomas Tharp of Maryland is #2,
Zebulon Tharp is #3, and so on).
17171KKKKKK17EEEFKFKKD
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
markers
|
393
|
390
|
19
|
391
|
385a
|
385b
|
426
|
388
|
439
|
389-1 |
392
|
389-2
|
458
|
459a
|
459b
|
455
|
454
|
447
|
437
|
448
|
449
|
464a
|
464b
|
464c
|
464d
|
#1
|
13
|
23
|
14
|
12
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13
|
29
|
17
|
9
|
9
|
11
|
11
|
24
|
14
|
19
|
28
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
#2
|
13
|
24
|
14
|
11
|
11
|
15
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
14
|
13
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#3
|
13
|
23
|
14
|
12
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
14
|
13
|
30
|
17
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
11
|
24
|
14
|
19
|
28
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
#4
|
13
|
24
|
14
|
11
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13
|
29
|
18
|
9
|
9
|
11
|
11
|
25
|
15
|
19
|
29
|
15
|
15
|
17
|
18
|
#5
|
13
|
23
|
14
|
12
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13
|
29
|
17
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
11
|
24
|
14
|
19
|
28
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
#6
|
13
|
24
|
14
|
11
|
11
|
15
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
14
|
13
|
30
|
17
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
11
|
25
|
15
|
18
|
29
|
15
|
15
|
17
|
17
|
#7
|
13
|
24
|
14
|
11
|
10
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
28
|
16
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
26
|
15
|
19
|
29
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
|
#8
|
14
|
23
|
16
|
10
|
15
|
15
|
11
|
13
|
13
|
14
|
12
|
31
|
16
|
8
|
10
|
11
|
11
|
25
|
15
|
20
|
27
|
11
|
14
|
15
|
15
|
#9
|
13
|
22
|
14
|
10
|
14
|
14
|
11
|
14
|
11
|
12
|
10
|
28
|
15
|
8
|
9
|
8
|
11
|
24
|
16
|
20
|
27
|
12
|
14
|
15
|
15
|
#10
|
13
|
23
|
14
|
12
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13 |
29
|
17
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
11
|
24
|
14
|
19
|
28
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
#11
|
13
|
23
|
14
|
11
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13
|
29
|
17
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
11
|
24
|
14
|
19
|
28
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18 |
#12
|
13
|
23
|
14
|
12
|
11
|
14
|
12
|
12
|
12
|
13
|
13
|
29
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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RESULTS ANALYSIS:
Haplotype #1
Genetics interprete the results in the following
manner. First, certain markers are considered quick mutators,
other mutate at a more regular rate. Quick mutators include: DYS
# 385a & b, 458, 459a & b, 464a-d, 449, 439. Although
Family Tree DNA does not include DYS #389-1 & #389-2 as a quick
mutator, other genetics do include this marker in that category.
Geneticist have not yet attached a calculation for determining how
quickly these markers actually mutate. All we know at this point
is these markers mutate more quickly than the others, closing the time
gap between two lines that may differ from each other by primarily by
quick mutators rather than the slower mutating marker.
Additionally, DYS #389-1 and #389-2 are scored differently than other
markers. This is because these markers tend to duplicate each
other - if a one-step mutation is observed at #389-1, then #389-2 will
also show a one-step mutation, resulting in double-reporting of
repeats. To calculate the correct number of total mutations
on this marker, you need to figure out the mutations on DYS #389-1 by
subtracting one volunteer's value from another. In our example,
you subtract #389-1 for Thomas Thorpe of Woodbridge from value assigned
to the same marker for Zebulon Tharp of VA (13 - 14 = 1). Then to
see how many mutations are at #389-2, just subtract the first
volunteer's #389-1 value from the SAME VOLUNTEER'S #389-2 value.
Now compare. So in our example, if you subtract the values
for Thomas Thorpe of Woodbridge: 13 - 29 = 16. Then for Zebulon
Tharp: 14 - 30 = 16. So there is NO real mutation on DYS
#389-2 between these two lineages. The total mutation between
these lineages on the DYS #389 markers = 1.
Finally, markers 464a-d are copies found at different locations on the
Y-chromosome. Results are always reported from low to high,
reading from left to right. When a mismatch occurs, it must be
taken into consideration whether the number of apparent mismatches are
a results of the order of presentation of the markers. The order
of the results for these markers may make it appear as if there are
more mismatches than are actually present. In other words, most
two-step mutations occuring on DYS #464 should be treated as a single
marker mutation when comparing two lineages.
Out of the samples tested so far, we have
determined there is a close exact genetic match between the #1 lineage
(Thomas Thorpe) and #3 lineage (Zebulon Tharp). Although this
match was originally announced to the public as a 24/25 match, it now
appears to be a bit more distant: 23 out of 25 markers match. The
two mismatches are DYS #389 (counted as one mismatch only) and
#459b. Note that both mismatches occur on quick mutator markers,
making the calculation of time the two lineages share to the MRCA (most
recent common ancestor) extremely difficult to calculate. Family
Tree DNA merely states for a 23/25 match that the two lines are
"probably related." In other words, "the probability of a close
relationship is good," however, the results show mutations, and
therefore more time between Zebulon's and the Woodbridge line has
elapsed than with a perfect 25/25 match. There is about a 50%
probability with a 23/25 match that the two lines shared a MRCA with 28
generations, or 700 years. However, because the markers in this
case are quick mutating, the time to the MCRA could be considerably
shorter, perhaps 14 generations (I'm just dividing 28 generations in
half until we have better studies to answer this question) and a mere
350 years, putting the split between these lines in America rather than
Europe. Since genealogy researchers that determined that Zebulon
Tharp was born sometime in the early 1700's, putting the split from the
Woodbridge lineage at least 9 generations ago, then the MCRA between
the two lines is probably between 10 - 14 generations ago.
The results between the two lines (#1 and #3) are close enough for
these to lines to be considered a single haplotype, particularly in
light of the fact that Family Tree DNA has deemed a 99.9%
likelihood that the two lines were a single lineage some point in
recent time. I have therefore designated the lines of Thomas
Thorpe (1631) of Woodbridge and Zebulon Tharp (early 1700's) of
Virginia as HAPLOTYPE #1.
Additionally, the results for Benjamin Tharp (abt 1770) of
Virginia show an almost complete genetic match between this lineage and
that of Thomas Thorpe (#1) and Zebulon Tharp (#3). The match is
24/25 with both #1 & #3; however, the mismatch between Benjamin's
results and that of Thomas Thorpe (#1) is marker 459(b), a quick
mutating marker. Thus, the time to the most recent common
ancestor between these two lines is approximately 9 generations or 225
years (50% probability), fitting exactly with birthdate of Benjamin
himself about 1770. The single mismatch between Benjamin's
line and that of Zebulon Tharp (#3) is marker 389(1) & (2).
The estimated time to the most recent common ancestor between these two
lineages is 17 generations, or about 425 years. However, these
estimates are extremely conservative. It must be remembered that
a mutation, either on a quick or slow moving marker, can happen at any
time, even between fathers and sons (or between brothers).
Studies are now being performed by Family Tree DNA to better determine
the mutation rates of marker #389, along with remaining 24 markers used
for this analysis.
Although not conclusive, it appears likely that both Zebulon Tharp and
Benjamin Tharp are direct descendants of Thomas Thorpe of
Woodbridge. While it is possible that both Benjamin and Zebulon
descend from Thorpe ancestors closely related to Thomas of Woodbridge,
no evidence of another Thorpe relation has ever been found in the
records. Additionally, while it is possible that Benjamin is a
direct descendant of Zebulon of Virginia, this appears unlikely for the
following reasons:
1. Benjamin Tharp makes his first appearance in the
records as part of the Shrewsbury Baptist Chruch in Monmouth County,
NJ. While Thomas Thorpe's lineage is centered in Woodbridge,
Middlesex County, by the early 1700's descendants had moved out into
neighboring Union & Monmouth Counties. 2. The DNA results
show a connection between Benjamin and Thomas Thorpe on DNA marker
#389. It is also likely that Zebulon's marker #389 mutated
sometime after the lineage split from the other two in the early
1700's.
It is possible that Zebulon Tharp and Benjamin Tharp both
match on marker #459b because they both descend from the same son of
Thomas Thorpe. This marker may have mutated with this son, before
the two lineages split from each other. However, it is also
possible is that this marker represents a mutation within the branch of
descent of the Thomas Thorpe volunteer, and that the other two lineages
have remained unchanged on this marker.
It should be noted that a second volunteer from the Thomas Thorpe of
Woodbridge line has participated in the DNA Project using the 12-marker
test. Since the two volunteers from this line had exact matches
on their DNA test, the DNA fingerprint of the Woodbridge line has been
determined.
Finally, it was recently discovered that there was an unexpected
genetic match between between the Thomas Thorpe of Woodbridge line
(along with the related branches of Zebulon and Benjamin Tharp) and
that of Thomas Thorp (abt 1818) of Goderich Township, Huron, Ontario,
Canada. Thomas Thorp is listed as #10 on the DNA results
graph. Since we know from census information that Thomas Thorp
was born in England, it lends support to the suspicions that the line
of Thomas Thorpe of Woodbridge originated in England in the early
1600's. It also appears that the name "Thomas" may be a
traditional family name of this line. The two branches of Thomas
of Woodbridge and Thomas of Ontario have been separated for at least
two hundred years.
As suspected by genealogists over the decades, John Jacob Thorp/Tharp
of Morris County, New Jersey, is also a genetic match to the various
branches of Woodbridge Thorpes, as well as the Ontario Thorp
line. John Jacob varies only on marker #391. It is likely
that he descends from Thomas Thorpe's (1631) son, Daniel Thorpe.
Once this family settled in Indiana, the surname spelling was modified
to "Tharp."
John Tharp of Rahway, New Jersey, born about 1720, married to Margaret
Frezier (probably originally "Frazier") was also found to be related to
the Thomas Thorpe of Woodbridge lineage thanks to DNA testing.
All members of this Thorpe/Tharp line belong to haplogroup R1b1b2.
HAPLOTYPE #2
Moving on in the analysis, two volunteers tested from the line of
Thomas Tharp (1640) of Maryland, thereby solidifying the genetic
"fingerprint" of this particular line. Comparing the test results
of Thomas Tharp (1640) of Maryland (#2) with that of Thomas Thorpe of
Woodbridge (#1), we find there is NO GENETIC MATCH between these two
early American lines. Using the first 12 markers for a
comparison, we find only 8 out of 12 markers match (8/12). This
kind of low marker match essentially means that the two lines are not
related to each other in the recent past (past 1500 years).
There are simply too many mutations for the two lines to share a
MRCA. The four markers that mismatch are DYS #390, 391, 385b and
389-1 & 2.
Comparing the test results of Thomas Tharp (1640) of Maryland (#2) with
that of Zebulon Tharp of Virginia (#3), the match is 9/12. Thus,
only 9 out of the 12 markes match between these lines, indicating NO
GENETIC MATCH between #2 and #3. The markers that mismatch are
390, 391 and 385b, the same markers that mismatch between the
Woodbridge and Maryland lines as well.
The recent results for the Solomon Tharp line (abt 1750) show an exact
genetic match to that of the Maryland Tharps on the 12-marker
test. We have expanded the test for the Thomas Tharp lineage from
a 12 to a 25-marker test and are awaiting the results. An
expanded test will help us better determine when Solomon's line split
from the Maryland line, but at this point in time, it appears that
Solomon is in fact a direct descendant of Thomas Tharp of Maryland
(1640). Since many descendants of Thomas Tharp of Maryland
eventually settled in Delaware, and since Solomon Tharp has significant
connections with the state of Delaware, the documentary evidence
supports the DNA findings.
Therefore, we have found that Thomas Tharp (1640) of Maryland
and Solomon Tharp of Delaware (abt 1750) represents a separate,
distinct genetic lineage, and so designate
members of these two families HAPLOTYPE
#2.
Again, it should be noted that two volunteers from the line of
Thomas Tharp of Maryland have participated in the DNA Project and the
genetic fingerprint of this lineage has been determined. Members
of this lineage belong to haplogroup R1b1.
HAPLOTYPES #3-6
Two volunteers tested from the John Henry Tharp (abt 1830) line
of Somerset County, New Jersey. One volunteer participated in the
12-marker test, the other in the 25-marker test. Since the two
volunteer's results were an exact genetic match (12/12) we have used to
the full 25-marker test for comparison with the other lineages.
Comparing the results of John Henry Tharp of New Jersey to Haplotype
#1, we find there is NO GENETIC MATCH between these lines. Thus,
the lineage of John Henry Tharp is not genetically related to that of
either Thomas Thorpe of Woodbridge or Zebulon Tharp of Virginia.
Them match between these lines is only 18 out of 25 markers (18/25),
much too distant for these lines to share a MRCA.
Comparing the results of John Henry Tharp of New Jersey to Haplotype
#2, we find there may be a very distant genetic match between the
two lines. Since Haplotype #2 only has a 12-marker test for
comparison, there is less certainty about the relationship between John
Henry's line ad that of the Maryland Tharps. The match between
the lines is 10 out of 12 markers (10/12). Clearly, the two lines
are not recently related (within the last 400 years), but may be
related in the distant past, particularly in light of the fact that the
markers that mismatch, DYS #385b and 389-1 & 2 (one mutation
mismatch only), are considered quick mutators.
Again, it is difficult to calculated the time to a MRCA between Thomas
Tharp of Maryland and John Henry Tharp of NJ. In the future, if
Haplotype #2 is expanded to include a 25-marker test, we may discover
that there is no genetic match between these two lineages. In the
meanwhile, I have used some calculations provide dby geneticists to
determine the time to MRCA. There is a 50% probability that lines
of John Henry Tharp and Thomas Tharp of Maryland were related
approximately 30-40 generations ago, or 800-1000 years. There is
a 90% probability that they may have been related 1500-2000 years ago,
before the use of surnames even began! However, because these
calculations are based on very conservative estimates of time and
general lack of knowledge concerning rates of mutation among the quick
mutator markers, then the time between the lines to the MRCA could be
much shorter, say 400-600 years ago (I'm dividing the time in half
again).
Because the possible relationship between the lines of John Henry Tharp
and Haplotype #2 remain to uncertain at this point, I have designated HAPLOTYPE #3 to include the lineage
of John Henry Tharp (abt 1830) of New Jersey. Members of this
lineage belong to haplogroup R1b.
We are hopeful that we will eventually discover a genetic match for the
volunteers from the lines George Thorpe (late 1700's) of England (# 8)
and James Tharp (abt 1799) of Virginia (# 7). George Thorpe
was born in England, but emigrated to America with his son George
(1819) in 1830. Descendants of this lineage settled in various
locations, including Missouri, Texas and Kansas. This lineage
belongs to haplogroup "I". Since George Thorpe's line
represents a completely different haplogroup than our other
lines, we know this lineage is completely unrelated
(genealogically-speaking) to our other participants. To match
lineages, you must first match haplogroups, then haplotypes. Note
as well that the volunteer from this line participated in the 37-marker
DNA test; however, our present table is only designed for
25-markers. If you would like the additional 12 markers, please
contact me.. George Thorpe's line has been designated HAPLOTYPE #5.
I await information regarding the lineage history of James Tharp (1799)
of Virginia. I have designated this lineage HAPLOTYPE #4.
HAPLOTYPE #6 belongs to the
line of William Thorpe of New Haven, Connecticut (#9). Like the
line of George Thorpe, William's line also belongs to haplogroup "I",
though the two lines do not share a common Thorpe ancestor. Two
participants have provided DNA samples for this line, solidifying the
genetic fingerprint of William's DNA.
To review the Haplotype
lineages that the Project has thus far revealed:
1.
Haplotype #1: Thomas Thorpe
(1631)
of Woodbridge, New Jersey; Zebulon Tharp (early 1700's) of Virginia;
Benjamin Tharp (abt 1770) of Virginia, Thomas Thorp (1818) of Ontario,
Canada; John Jacob Thorp/Tharp (1776) of Morris County, New Jersey.
2. Haplotype #2: Thomas Tharp (1640) of Maryland and Solomon Tharp (abt
1750) of Delaware.
3. Haplotype #3: John Henry Tharp (abt 1830) of Somerset County, New
Jersey.
4. Haplotype #4: James Tharp (1799) of Virginia.
5. Haplotype #5: George Thorpe (late 1700's) of England.
6. Haplotype #6: William Thorpe (abt 1605) of New Haven, Connecticut.
Because of the lack of genetic connection between Haplotype #1 and #3,
both New Jersey lines, it is quite possible that the numerous Thorpe
lineages found in New Jersey throughout the 1800's represent separate
Thorpe lines that are genetically unrelated to each other. As
more volunteers from NJ Tharp/Thorpe lines join the Project, the
clearer the picture we will obtain of this obviously complex genetic
relationship.